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  1. This thread is gross, and some of the posters here should be ashamed of themselves for propagating sexist nonsense that no educated Muslim should be spouting. Came back here after a long time to see what's going on and probably won't be returning. The Prophet has spoken highly of women. If women are so inferior at logical thinking, why do we rely on Aisha for most of the Hadith? There are REAL CULTURAL reasons why women tend to work less hours and forgo opportunities in computer science. Women are told from birth that their careers are less important and they need to be responsible for child-rearing. Hence why women pick less demanding careers. I'm astonished by how illogical and frankly idiotic the arguments are on here. The best part is all the guys that are patting themselves on the back for being so intelligent. Oh, also, since you're posting all these statistics on how men must be smarter because they are chess players, please explain the whole inferiority thing in regards to women having higher college graduation rates worldwide? Your thinking is backwards and brings a bad name to Islam. This is why the perception of Islam so often is that its backwards and sexist, despite all the reforms the Prophet introduced for women. This thread just makes me so angry. I feel so bad for Muslim women, that we have to put up with this kind of garbage. We deserve better.
  2. No doubt it's important to address the issue of online communication, but these articles do so in a very silly way and without actually addressing the main problem. With all of the bullying that's been taking place, especially over online relationships, it's so important to discuss safety, who you should trust, proper interaction, etc. People are not poking others on FB for fun (is that even a thing? because all these articles keep talking about the fitnah of poking when I don't actually think it happens all that often), they are doing it because they are lonely and it is easy to find people online, trust them, and have some sort of relationship. I am especially concerned for those that are younger, because they often are the most vulnerable, and it is very easy to be fooled by an older predator who you think is trustworthy but is just trying to take advantage of you. Why not address the roots of this? Why do so many teenagers feel lonely? Why are fathers so often absent/aloof that young girls feel compelled to seek out validation from other men? That's the real discussion to be having.
  3. sundayschool

    My Beliefs Blog

    There have always been Muslims who drank and engaged in extramarital sex! There has always been a group of people, especially elites, across Muslim empires (just read history) who have had dancers and mistresses and written poetry about wine. This really isn't anything new and I don't know why we bother to discuss these things so much. Islam is pretty clear on where it stands on alcohol and sex. People who don't want to follow those rules just won't follow them. They still believe in Islam, so they don't want to renounce the religion and therefore try to justify their actions in silly ways. It's not ideal but it's not this new revolution that's happening, either. Has the author of this article spent anytime looking at the way Muslims are treating the disadvantaged? Domestic violence victims, servants, the disabled, the poor? Or will they only pontificate on things that they can feel self-righteous about?
  4. I was explaining that UAE doesn't tax its citizens, so therefore the citizens don't have many political rights! What's so wrong about that? You basically agreed with me a few posts ago.
  5. Ooooh thanks for clarifying, that makes more sense. So they'd have to push it 2-4 weeks back (can't remember when it started). That would have been a lot better. They certainly couldn't have changed it last minute for the Muslim athletes (i.e. this year), because so much planning goes into it. However, I wonder when they decided the dates and when exactly the Muslim countries petitioned them to change it. If they petitioned this year, it makes sense that they couldn't accommodate them, and it would have been very shortsighted on the Muslim countries' part not to realize that Ramadan would fall during the games sooner. The example you brought up with the Christian athletes really isn't the same, then, though. It's one thing to delay one event from a Sunday to a Monday, and an altogether different undertaking to push the games back a few weeks. No way would this have happened unless someone raised a concern when they were actually deciding on the dates. Sorry, I didn't mean to come across as censoring the discussion. Of course we should talk about this, but in a way that doesn't pass judgment on the athletes. I was just concerned because some posts said things like "it makes it clear where their priorities lie," and I thought that was crossing a line. Saying that people's priorities lie elsewhere is basically saying that they don't care about being a good Muslim, which I'm sure you would agree isn't right.
  6. Fasts don't end til well into the evening/night, and many of the events have to be held in the daylight. I'm just asking to clarify your post - when could they move the events to, then? Do you remember what sports the athletes in '96 were competing in? I didn't know that such a thing had happened, and I'd love to know more. Also, there are a bunch of Muslims fasting - Mohamed-Khaled Belabbas, Noor al-Malki, and there was definitely someone from Britain, if I remember correctly. Oh, and apparently the Islamic Human Rights Commission and other countries like Turkey and Morocco had lobbied for a schedule change, but the Olympic Committee refused to do it. Also, one of the fatwas issued about the fasting didn't say that it was OK for the athletes to postpone their fasts because they were playing in the Olympics, it was that they could delay them since they were travelling, which has clear Islamic basis. I just think we should steer clear of judging people. It's unfortunate that the games had to fall during Ramadan, but no one's Iman is perfect, and you can never really know what other people are going through.
  7. I'm unsure of why you're getting so defensive, because I wasn't even very critical of the UAE in my post. I was mostly explaining how the government works there. In terms of rights - not having freedom of speech or press to criticize the government is actually HUGE. You didn't really "prove" what was wrong with my post, and I'm disappointed that you haven't bothered to respond to the rest of it, because I was actually looking forward to learning more. But I guess there's not much for us to discuss now, is there? There was a full-fledged discussion going on about the UAE before I even made my post, so I completely disagree that I was making an unrelated comment to a throw-away remark about taxation. There is plenty of criticism of other countries on these boards. I find it funny that people who so casually criticize the West are getting unreasonably defensive about Middle Eastern countries. They have to grow a tough skin. No one's country is perfect and you have to be able to deal with criticism civilly. Of course the UAE is light years ahead of Saudi Arabia. That doesn't mean there isn't room for growth. If laborers are treated badly, then that should be brought up again and again until it is addressed. Regarding the Arab Spring, I know that Saudi Arabia immediately increased allowances for college students (not sure about others, but this I know for sure) at the first sign of unrest in the other countries. You are right that the majority are happy with their lives, but there are sizable minorities in these places that are incredibly unhappy. Military action such as that in Bahrain + throwing money at people can only work for so long in dealing with their grievances.
  8. Um, what did I say that was incorrect? First of all, I'm not basing my claims on what the "stupid western media" (which, by the way, couldn't care less about the UAE. They're only interested in the buildings. And I think it's a insulting to dismiss Western intellectuals completely like that). I've studied the Gulf states academically. My post was based in political fact. It's called "rentier state theory." A popular slogan during the American Revolution was "no taxation without representation" - the American colonists were being taxed by Britain despite having unsatisfactory representation in Parliament. In rentier states, the logic is, "we're not taxing you at all, so why would you want any representation?" I really did not say anything about the UAE that was one-sided (like your defense in this thread is turning out to be). This is a complex situation. It's great that the UAE can help its citizens with things like college education. But you can't deny that there is something problematic about citizens having no political autonomy at all. I mean, even the UAE government has recognized this and is trying to introduce reforms that get the public politically involved (or so they say, at the very least). What you're saying about the foreign laborers is just incorrect. If you have any articles or research to share that backs up your claims, I would love to read it. I'm not being sarcastic - I genuinely would like to learn more. I have some sources if you'd like to take a look - http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-united-arab-emirates http://www.hhrjournal.org/index.php/hhr/article/view/435/665 Hmm, I don't think the Arab Spring didn't spread to the Gulf States because everyone is content (first, you'd have to define what you mean by "the people.") Remember that these countries have powerful militaries, and since they literally own everything, it's harder for citizens to protest. The international community is also more likely to help these countries defend themselves against protests, because they don't want anything to interfere with their oil supply. Just look at the brutal suppression that happened in Bahrain, which was assisted by Saudi Arabia. How long will that money last? It comes from their natural resource, oil, which isn't exactly renewable. Look, as I said in my response to M5er - it's absurd to say that you're perfectly fine with no political rights, as long as the cash supply is coming in. That's called selling your soul. What happens when the leaders end up being corrupt or make bad decisions? Too bad, you can't do anything, because you have no rights! It is a crime in the UAE to criticize the government and many critics have been detained and harassed. I understand that not everyone wants to live in a Western-style democracy. But there must be some sort of political autonomy everywhere. The issue is not democracy, but whether citizens have any political autonomy at all.
  9. Regarding the Gulf States - first of all, the money only goes to the tiny minority of citizens in those countries, all the foreigners who do the domestic labor can just die for all anyone cares. Also, the money is given to placate the citizens because they literally have no rights at all. The reason behind not taxing them is that if the citizens are not paying taxes and instead getting money from the government, they have no right to anything politically.
  10. Bahahaha I love you guys: London Mayor Celebrates First British Gold by Getting Stuck on Zip Line as Crowd Laughs London Dangling Mayor Becomes Latest Delightful British Meme
  11. Brits, you guys have won four medals so far. Four. Four! I'm embarrassed for you guys!
  12. Their outfits could not have been uglier! I've seen my fellow Pakistanis bling themselves out for the smallest tea gathering at someone's house, and yet for the Olympics they looked like they were wearing their old house clothes.
  13. When should children begin fasting? I know the general rule of thumb is when they hit puberty, but I feel like that isn't the full story. Some kids hit puberty at age 7, and others at age 15. I personally feel that someone at 15 should be fasting whether or not they've hit puberty. It's about mental development, too, isn't it, not just sexual maturity? I was having this discussion with my mom because I found it ridiculous that she was excusing a 15 year old from fasting because he hasn't really hit puberty yet...whereas some really little kids have to start very early just because they hit puberty young!
  14. I spent some time googling your problem to see if I could help in some way. Unfortunately, couldn't find anything that made sense. If there are particular PMs you're looking for, though, maybe you can ask people to send them again if they still have them in their sent boxes? For people that have MM, maybe the mods can help you out by finding their PMs. Good luck! I'm a very nostalgic and sentimental person myself, so I can imagine how you feel.
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