Jump to content
Maniac Muslim Forums
Sign in to follow this  
///м53я

UAE: Land of no-tax and other questions

Recommended Posts

When I was moving to Canada, my friend asked me what it was like here. I told her, 'People don't wear abayas and they have taxes.' She thoughtI was joking. She had thought that taxes were only part of fairytales :lol:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

WOW, no taxes in Saudi? SOoo unheard of!

im liking Saudi now.

It'll still take a lot more for me to entertain that notion.

 

When I was moving to Canada, my friend asked me what it was like here. I told her, 'People don't wear abayas and they have taxes.' She thoughtI was joking. She had thought that taxes were only part of fairytales :lol:

But the two sureties of life are death and taxes. Thinking taxes are fairy tales belong in some alternate reality.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I do think sometimes, and yeah such a headache... :wacko:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding the Gulf States - first of all, the money only goes to the tiny minority of citizens in those countries, all the foreigners who do the domestic labor can just die for all anyone cares. Also, the money is given to placate the citizens because they literally have no rights at all. The reason behind not taxing them is that if the citizens are not paying taxes and instead getting money from the government, they have no right to anything politically.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding the Gulf States - first of all, the money only goes to the tiny minority of citizens in those countries, all the foreigners who do the domestic labor can just die for all anyone cares. Also, the money is given to placate the citizens because they literally have no rights at all. The reason behind not taxing them is that if the citizens are not paying taxes and instead getting money from the government, they have no right to anything politically.

 

typical response from anyone who knows nothing about this place, except what the stupid western media tries to portray.

 

I bet you didn't know that a labor worker could sue the owner if hes treated unjustly and in most cases wins? But of course they "forgot" to mention this when they showed you pictures of labor camps from 1970s.

 

and what else is politics for if the governments give you everything you need? Just so you can moan and complain about your personal issues?

Lets do a poll on here or anywhere in the world. Would you rather be given all these benefits from your government, or be given "political rights". hah.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Regarding the Gulf States - first of all, the money only goes to the tiny minority of citizens in those countries, all the foreigners who do the domestic labor can just die for all anyone cares. Also, the money is given to placate the citizens because they literally have no rights at all. The reason behind not taxing them is that if the citizens are not paying taxes and instead getting money from the government, they have no right to anything politically.

 

I don't think it's unreasonable for a state to only give benefits and funding to it's own citizens - that's pretty much standard for most places in the world and that's exactly what was said above the money goes to its citizens and no one was disputing that. However, the fact the state does not levy tax applies to all residents, not just citizens.

 

The treatment of workers, labour and domestic, is a big concern in the Gulf States - and the Emirates is probably better than most if we are comparing to others in the region, but again, while all workers should have the right to fair employment laws and access to legal courses of redress, that doesn't mean they are entitled to any funding by the state. They are guest workers who are there usually on a fixed contract to work for a time.

 

typical response from anyone who knows nothing about this place, except what the stupid western media tries to portray.

 

I bet you didn't know that a labor worker could sue the owner if hes treated unjustly and in most cases wins? But of course they "forgot" to mention this when they showed you pictures of labor camps from 1970s.

 

and what else is politics for if the governments give you everything you need? Just so you can moan and complain about your personal issues?

Lets do a poll on here or anywhere in the world. Would you rather be given all these benefits from your government, or be given "political rights". hah.

 

Fiver, I gotta I would be really surprised if the worker would win in 'most' cases - it can be hard enough to extricate yourself from a minor traffic incident if you come up against an Emirati, let alone a labourer who may find it difficult to fund his legal advice in the first place! And yikes, as for your poll, you can give me political rights anytime - excessive wealth is not a suitable replacement for autonomy.

 

There's a reason the Arab Spring didn't spread to the Gulf states by and large - the people are comfortable and happy with their lives, happy to be given money to kow-tow to an outdated tribal system of rule. That's up to them, but I don't think I could sell my freedom that easily.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what are you serious, you would rather have political rights than have your government give you what you want/need.

 

what are the point of political rights when your government is doing a good job already, you would prefer a government that didn't give its citizens money/wealth just so you can vote?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

what are you serious, you would rather have political rights than have your government give you what you want/need.

 

what are the point of political rights when your government is doing a good job already, you would prefer a government that didn't give its citizens money/wealth just so you can vote?

 

You can't just throw money at a problem and expect it to go away

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

just saying that if you are happy, and your government is doing a good job, what is there to change. why do you need political rights - well unless you go into politics

 

plus Dubai has crap loads of infrastructure.

 

however would you prefer to trade this situation for one where you are sad, and the government is not doing as well but you have political rights.

 

i am not saying having political rights = poor government, sad citizens, i am just asking if you would trade political rights for happiness

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Political rights isn't just the vote. And the money/wealth of any country can be much better spent in developing the infrastructure of the country instead of enriching the personal wealth of the citizens.

 

... like the UAE?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

Fiver, I gotta I would be really surprised if the worker would win in 'most' cases - it can be hard enough to extricate yourself from a minor traffic incident if you come up against an Emirati, let alone a labourer who may find it difficult to fund his legal advice in the first place! And yikes, as for your poll, you can give me political rights anytime - excessive wealth is not a suitable replacement for autonomy.

 

There's a reason the Arab Spring didn't spread to the Gulf states by and large - the people are comfortable and happy with their lives, happy to be given money to kow-tow to an outdated tribal system of rule. That's up to them, but I don't think I could sell my freedom that easily.

 

please, I'd love to hear what you'd do with your political rights or how you even define them. Its not like the citizens over here have no voice or whatever you might be led to believe. Heck, ANYONE can complain straight on national radio about any issue, and theres always an official responding to the problem and fixing it out. Thats other than the random help the sheikhs give to people who ask them, or not even ask.

 

and trust me, the law in most cases is with the poor. Try going to the justice system here now, and no matter who you're against, you ll get your rights. There was once upon a time corruption, but its been/being slaughtered.

 

give me the outdated tribal system where people are happy any day over the crap political system nobody is ever satisfied with, with every few years a bunch of hobos get elected, steal as much wealth as they can to keep em good for the coming years, and a new candidate steps up later and the cycle continues.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can't just throw money at a problem and expect it to go away

 

and that problem would be?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  

×