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Was your generation as obsessed with sex or is it just mine. I feel like it is all anybody I know talks about and its all I see in films or hear in music. I mean we are learning about contraception in Year 7 now (thats age 11), and the teachers talk as if its normal for people that age to be doing these things. What do you guys think?

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Actually there are some studies that show the amount of youngens engaging in sex has been in decline for more than a decade. I also wouldn't associate teaching about contraception as indicative of a higher obsession with sex. Actually, a lot of US schools are focusing on abstinence (which I think is dumb personally, but that's a US exception because of the Christian Right) and only skimming contraception.

 

But I do think we're an overly sexualized culture, largely because of media and the availability of sexual material. People can look at porn and not really feel a thing. So I can't say from experience, but my guess is we're more inundated with sex, but not necessarily anymore engaged in it than prior generations (unless you're talking like back before the 60s).

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Was your generation as obsessed with sex or is it just mine. I feel like it is all anybody I know talks about and its all I see in films or hear in music. I mean we are learning about contraception in Year 7 now (thats age 11), and the teachers talk as if its normal for people that age to be doing these things. What do you guys think?

Poor 12 year old Mo-child (Mowgli?). Let me give you my extra 6 years of experience, young 'un.

 

People have been obsessed with this topic for as long as we have existed. Now we are more open about it (as opposed to feeling shame at it), and adults talk about it too, reinforcing the normalcy/lack of shame in discussing it.

 

The end.

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Oh and birth control and other contraceptives make it possible to actually engage in it pre-maritally. And obviously if you're doing something, you tend to talk about it...

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Actually there are some studies that show the amount of youngens engaging in sex has been in decline for more than a decade. I also wouldn't associate teaching about contraception as indicative of a higher obsession with sex. Actually, a lot of US schools are focusing on abstinence (which I think is dumb personally, but that's a US exception because of the Christian Right) and only skimming contraception.

 

But I do think we're an overly sexualized culture, largely because of media and the availability of sexual material. People can look at porn and not really feel a thing. So I can't say from experience, but my guess is we're more inundated with sex, but not necessarily anymore engaged in it than prior generations (unless you're talking like back before the 60s).

 

Are those studies limited to the States? I have never been to the US but maybe so, in terms of television I don't think shows are as sexualised and nor are films compared to things that came out ten years ago (e.g. stuff like American Pie).

 

Maybe the contraception education thing has a reinforcing effect concerning the thoughts of young people. Who knows though.

 

Poor 12 year old Mo-child (Mowgli?). Let me give you my extra 6 years of experience, young 'un.

 

People have been obsessed with this topic for as long as we have existed. Now we are more open about it (as opposed to feeling shame at it), and adults talk about it too, reinforcing the normalcy/lack of shame in discussing it.

 

The end.

 

I am older than you lol sit down infant.

 

I dunno I was just wondering if older generations were as obsessed as the current or as sexualised (in my perception). AFAIK my parents didn't have sex ed at an age as early as 11.

 

Oh and birth control and other contraceptives make it possible to actually engage in it pre-maritally. And obviously if you're doing something, you tend to talk about it...

 

People have used other methods for contraception way before condoms were around. I don't think its relevant I was just wondering if there is a correlation between increased sexual education (and at an earlier age) with an increase of sexualisation in society.

 

On your second point: not necessarily so, I talk about politics quite often, doesn't mean I am actively involved in any organisation. I think many people talk about sex out of habit now and for cheap humour.

 

It's probably your culture.

 

I've seen it in every place I have travelled to and lived in, and see it in medias of different cultures I pay attention to (e.g. in British tv shows and in anime and in Arabic tweets).

 

I wasn't really aware about sex and sexuality until I was in Year 9/10.

 

Wow that is surprising, literally everyone in my year knew about this stuff in year 7, year 8 at the latest.

 

 

Oooooo Beef?

 

No chicken.

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Are those studies limited to the States? I have never been to the US but maybe so, in terms of television I don't think shows are as sexualised and nor are films compared to things that came out ten years ago (e.g. stuff like American Pie).

 

Maybe the contraception education thing has a reinforcing effect concerning the thoughts of young people. Who knows though.

 

 

I am older than you lol sit down infant.

 

I dunno I was just wondering if older generations were as obsessed as the current or as sexualised (in my perception). AFAIK my parents didn't have sex ed at an age as early as 11.

 

 

People have used other methods for contraception way before condoms were around. I don't think its relevant I was just wondering if there is a correlation between increased sexual education (and at an earlier age) with an increase of sexualisation in society.

 

On your second point: not necessarily so, I talk about politics quite often, doesn't mean I am actively involved in any organisation. I think many people talk about sex out of habit now and for cheap humour.

 

 

I've seen it in every place I have travelled to and lived in, and see it in medias of different cultures I pay attention to (e.g. in British tv shows and in anime and in Arabic tweets).

 

 

Wow that is surprising, literally everyone in my year knew about this stuff in year 7, year 8 at the latest.

 

 

No chicken.

But they could have if they were villagers and married young...

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I think the correlation between sex and sex ed is that the former produces more teenage mothers and STDs without the latter. I don't see why sexual education would lead to more people having sex. In most schools, it's done in a very formal, matter-of-fact -- if not awkward -- way. There is very little that is enticing about it. I remember everyone just giggling, wishing they weren't there.

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By the way, you're taking "Sex ed" as a broad category, but when you look closer at it, what is being taught is not uniform school-to-school, and at younger ages, they're not usually teaching about actual sex. They're teaching about bodily changes. To my understanding, that's as true in the UK as it is in the US.

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Was your generation as obsessed with sex or is it just mine. I feel like it is all anybody I know talks about and its all I see in films or hear in music. I mean we are learning about contraception in Year 7 now (thats age 11), and the teachers talk as if its normal for people that age to be doing these things. What do you guys think?

My generation was not as obsessed and casual about sex than the newest generations are. A good example of this are music videos. If you compare music videos from the 90's with those of the late 2000's, there's a world of a difference. I don't ever remembering growing up watching MTV (when MTV was actually a music channel) with asses, genitals and breasts covering the screen...

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But they could have if they were villagers and married young...

 

Not at 11 though.

 

I think the correlation between sex and sex ed is that the former produces more teenage mothers and STDs without the latter. I don't see why sexual education would lead to more people having sex. In most schools, it's done in a very formal, matter-of-fact -- if not awkward -- way. There is very little that is enticing about it. I remember everyone just giggling, wishing they weren't there.

 

The way its taught in the UK is as follows:

 

"Now today class we are going to be learning about condoms and how you can use them. For example, the condom is one of the most commonly used forms of contraception which also protects you from STDs, here is a video about condoms and STD's *shows class dramatic video about 13 year old girl who got disease from her boyfriend visiting a sexual health clinic*".

 

The emphasis of the word "you" and also the fact they make it so relevant to the people watching the video could imo normalise the idea of pre-marital sex amongst young people. At my school guys would brag about things they did with girls ALL the time (a lot of the time it was true too).

 

By the way, you're taking "Sex ed" as a broad category, but when you look closer at it, what is being taught is not uniform school-to-school, and at younger ages, they're not usually teaching about actual sex. They're teaching about bodily changes. To my understanding, that's as true in the UK as it is in the US.

 

No in the UK I started sex ed in year 6 (the biological part regarding the penis, vagina, periods, puberty, etc.). In year 7 we were introduced to sexual diseases, contraception, etc., which were all later brought with more depth as time went on. In year 11 we had a class where the teacher brought in a box of sex toys and we were asked to put the condoms on them. My brother when he was in year 9 or so was offered a "c-card" at school, which is basically this government subsidy for condoms (they gave him free condoms).

In the UK AFAIK we have a national curriculum, but local education boards can interfere in the curriculum. Also, the government introduced specialised academies to allow schools to focus on particular themes, where sex education may be excluded. But for the standard, national curriculum, state school, what I described is how it was for me.

 

My generation was not as obsessed and casual about sex than the newest generations are. A good example of this are music videos. If you compare music videos from the 90's with those of the late 2000's, there's a world of a difference. I don't ever remembering growing up watching MTV (when MTV was actually a music channel) with asses, genitals and breasts covering the screen...

 

 

What about this stuff? (warning some awrah).

 

 

 

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Hmm I'm not really an older member, but my experience has been quite the opposite. The majority of the people I know aren't "obsessed" or anything.

I don't recall covering anything about it in school.. excepted we've only (barely) scratched the surface of this topic in Sharia classes. We don't have such courses at uni either. Also, my (married and unmarried) friends almost never bring up the topic..

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