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what exactly are the wife's rights if she is totally dependant on the husband in everthing.....so she as an individual has no rights at all. her husband decides about her rights. Allah commandsto beat wife if she doesnt obey her husband (4:34) so her husband is like a god to her...isnt that so?

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what exactly are the wife's rights if she is totally dependant on the husband in everthing.....so she as an individual has no rights at all. her husband decides about her rights. Allah commandsto beat wife if she doesnt obey her husband (4:34) so her husband is like a god to her...isnt that so?

 

Stop assuming and reading in between lines and coming up with assumptions. If you want find more information, do that rather than just quoting a quote of the Quran without any knowledge about it.

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I dont assume a thing...Not a thing....

The crucifixion of Jesus is an undeniable indisputable FACT of history. It happened long long before Muhammad came and Islam came. And on top of that JESUS Himself said He came to be crucified and to be raised from the dead. That settles the whole issue. On top of that over the head of Jesus hanging on the cross there was a sing: Jesus of Nazereth, the Kinf of the jews. On top of that the old testament prophecies precicted the crucifixion of Jesus. And on top of that many many historians recorded the fact of crucifixion of Jesus.

The life of Jesus was so important and His ministry that the world started to be coumnted since the coming of Jesus. We date everything as to be BC - Before Christ or After Christ was born.

And on top of that Jesus never sinned and never lied.

And on top of that Jesus SPOKE to His own moither and His beloved apostle whom He knew for 3 years - when He was hanging on the cross.

So nobody can deny the crucifixion. It is a fact. Period. Islam came 600 years AFTER the crucifixion, when it already took place.

Jesus said I Am the TRUTH, which means all else is a lie. As simple as that....

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I don't think you understand. Although we don't believe he died, that's not the main issue. The main issue is that you guys believe he is the son of God, and we believe he was a great prophet. You believe in trinity, and we believe in one and only God, who has no beginning and no ending.

 

It doesn't make sense to say that God died. Then who is running the world? It doesn't make sense to say that a part of God died, because God is perfect, and complete.

 

3 = 1 doesn't make sense.

 

But it seems like you are not open for discussion. So I am out.

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I dont assume a thing...Not a thing....

The crucifixion of Jesus is an undeniable indisputable FACT of history. It happened long long before Muhammad came and Islam came. And on top of that JESUS Himself said He came to be crucified and to be raised from the dead. That settles the whole issue. On top of that over the head of Jesus hanging on the cross there was a sing: Jesus of Nazereth, the Kinf of the jews. On top of that the old testament prophecies precicted the crucifixion of Jesus. And on top of that many many historians recorded the fact of crucifixion of Jesus.

The life of Jesus was so important and His ministry that the world started to be coumnted since the coming of Jesus. We date everything as to be BC - Before Christ or After Christ was born.

And on top of that Jesus never sinned and never lied.

And on top of that Jesus SPOKE to His own moither and His beloved apostle whom He knew for 3 years - when He was hanging on the cross.

So nobody can deny the crucifixion. It is a fact. Period. Islam came 600 years AFTER the crucifixion, when it already took place.

Jesus said I Am the TRUTH, which means all else is a lie. As simple as that....

Well, that's that then!

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We dont believe our own opinions. JESUS HImself said He is God. He said it and He never lied. Jesus is sinless which also another proof that He is God since no human is sinless. Only God is sinless and holy! But Jesus said about Himself He is God - He said it so may times that you need manipulation from outside to not see it....

The man inssue is that Jesus is God but as I showed above Jesus also deid on the cross. It is a fact.

 

SO there is no point in denying the truth and the fact that Jesus did die on the cross. And not only that but He also was raised from the dead. And the Gospels and book of Acts
are eyewitness accounts of the life and death of Jesus. So if Jesus died on the cross and was raised fro the dead by His Father then why try to earn somethig that was given by Him for free?

Jesus alreay provided the free giftof salvation by His sacrifice on the cross instead of every human being. He died so that we can live, He suffered so that we can become children of God and be reconciled to the Father who is now our Father too! God is love and He draws us to Himself by His goodness!



The Bible was written over 600 years before Muhammad came. BEFORE! It was written by jewish prophets who had covenant with God. Only such were used by God. Plus, the Bible says that God FORBADE to add even a word to the completed message of the Bible (Rev 22:18)and completed work of Jesus. Jesus already fulfiled the WHOLE will of the Father. Now, we are all (those who receive salvation Jesus provided by His own death on the cross and resurrection) children of God, now we are prophets, kings and priests and we no longer need mediators since we have direct access to the throne of GOD! Even more! God almighty indwells our hearts by the Holy Spirit. He lives in us!

Can you now see it? We have direct personal intimate relationship with God almighty who is now our Father. Jesus fulfilled the whole will of the Father. We already have it all! We are children of God, saved and reconciled to the Father. And nobody can add a word to what God already said in His Word.

On the cross Jesus said: IT IS FINISHED! He came to die. In His death and resurrection we have sonship, relationship with God, we are saved from hell and blessed with all heavenly blessings (ephesians 1:3).

and on top of that: Jesus said: I am the truth. There is no truth but in Jesus alone. Jesus said: I am the life! Which means there is no life but in Jesus alone. Apart from Jesus there is only death..

 

Jesus died as a man, not as God. and as a man Jesus was raised from the dead. After He rose from the dead He returned to heaven where He was before He came to the earth to live as a man....

 

God said who He is. He is one God. God is one and He is triune. It is very simple. Water can be in 3 stages: liquid ice and steam and it is the same water.

God is one and he is triune. Each time the Bible says God is one the word one means plural unity.

God is a supernatural Being so for us it is hard to fully understand Him. otherwise we would be like Him.

God's natur eos the nature of power and miracles. Every miracle is suspension of physical laws. And yet He still makes them, though for a human mind it is hard to understand it.

 

Of course I am open to discussion. If you are....

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Here, check it out for yourself: http://womeninislam.ws/en/women-right-islam_wives.aspx

 

 

so what are the rights of wife in Christianity?

 

In islam women have no rights at all. They are totally depandant on men and husbands. The only rigth women have in islam is to not be hit in the face. ALl other rights are in the hands of men, especially husband. Allah calls women deficient, he said women are inferrior and less intelligent, he commands to beat wives and calls it mercy (4:34)

 

But in christianity - God does not look at gender. He made His followers children of God and they are totaly equal. The Bible says there is no male no female in Christ Jesus but they are one body.

The Bible teaches that christians are to treat others as they want to be treated, to respect one another, to esteem others as above themselves, to love even our enemies. There is total equality in everything for men and women. They have equal rights and privilages (contrary to islam where women for example have half voice of man in court and are treated as inferrior).

Boith men and women are saved and made children of God in chrisianity.Men are to die for their wives (ephesians 5:25), both men and women are to be submitted one to another (contrary to islam where women are totally submitted to men and men are above them and rule them).

In christianity we are to serve one another. Jesus who is God and Lord and Master is the greatest Servant of all. Because christinaity is love, submission, purity and relationship with God and the nature of God is lowliness and humility. The Bible says satan is the most proud of all.... but God hates pride.....

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In islam women have no rights at all. They are totally depandant on men and husbands. The only rigth women have in islam is to not be hit in the face. ALl other rights are in the hands of men, especially husband. Allah calls women deficient, he said women are inferrior and less intelligent, he commands to beat wives and calls it mercy (4:34)

 

But in christianity - God does not look at gender. He made His followers children of God and they are totaly equal. The Bible says there is no male no female in Christ Jesus but they are one body.

The Bible teaches that christians are to treat others as they want to be treated, to respect one another, to esteem others as above themselves, to love even our enemies. There is total equality in everything for men and women. They have equal rights and privilages (contrary to islam where women for example have half voice of man in court and are treated as inferrior).

Boith men and women are saved and made children of God in chrisianity.Men are to die for their wives (ephesians 5:25), both men and women are to be submitted one to another (contrary to islam where women are totally submitted to men and men are above them and rule them).

In christianity we are to serve one another. Jesus who is God and Lord and Master is the greatest Servant of all. Because christinaity is love, submission, purity and relationship with God and the nature of God is lowliness and humility. The Bible says satan is the most proud of all.... but God hates pride.....

 

lolwut? In Christianity God doesn't look at gender? According to the bible, women exist to serve their husbands, and women should always be silent.

 

"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)

 

 

Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)

 

 

 

"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)

 

Those are three examples amongst dozens of examples of women's inferior status in the bible.

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