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Haku, you're missing the fundamental point of all this. Superman is 'Murican, 'Muricans don't lose.

that's too bluntly honest. Too blunt, so it borders on racism.

 

But you are sort of right. Superman is an immigrant Alien, who became properly american. Although Goku doesn't lose either, that's not because he is Japanese. It is only because he is on the side of good.

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alright, this is absolutely untrue. First, Superman would totally annihilate Goku, even in super sahan mode. He's superman. Second, while Darthvader would kill batman, he would know this ahead of time and have some crazy bomb on the deathstar as backup (he always has a plan B) and would destroy Darth so a tie at best.

Superman has already reached his prime and he can be defeated by a rock. Goku, on the other hand, and Saiyans alike, improves his power and skill the more he fights so he is always getting better and his number weakness is not a rock. There isn't just one Super Saiyan mode, there are multiple levels where the power ups are just bigger and better. He'd eat Superman as a breakfast appetiser!

 

 

As you found out, flight is not unique to Cryptonians. Lot of powerful aliens can fly.

As for flying faster than speed of light, that's just a silly musing by a silly comic writer in DC. First they are like, Flash is the fastest, and even Flash doesn't quite hit the speed of light. And then they are like superman can go 7 times faster than light. Well that's just unphysical.

 

I reject all anti-physics stuff in the cartoons even if it is in the canon. When Luise (not shaver, the other Luise) falls down from the building, super man scoops her off while flying faster than a speeding train, right? Well, the deceleration and acceleration is exactly the same as Luise first hitting the ground, and then hit by a train. Exactly the same, but both happening at the same time. Luise should be paraplegic by now if not dead. No wonder she falls from buildings all the time.

 

Another big flaw in Superman and Batman stories is that the presumption of superman is the most powerful and batman is the best. The DC plots become extremely naive because they have to cater to these presumptions. And a life time of reading of these comics ingrains in the fans that Superman is the most powerful and batman is the best. No questions asked.

 

Let's keep it in perspective! Superman is a Cryptonian who relies on yellow suns to store energy. Pretty pathetic. No wonder Freeza wasn't interested in Cryptonians. Besides they couldn't save them selves from a meager exploding planet. Batman is a ninja with 21st tech, and he can out smart superman. Also Lex Luther outsmarts superman all the time. So much for super geniousness of superman! He is just a country boy who happens to metabolize sun's power. Might as well call him super plant.

 

Lois not Luise :no: :no: :no:

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Goku Vs Superman is a no brainer (Goku wins). But how about Batman Vs Darthvader?

 

 

 

Ok, I agree and give you this Goku wins...but which form..saiyan, super, ssj2, ozaru?

who won who lost? You decide...

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superman is just a lowly kryptonian which no one heard of and no one thinks about as a warrior race. even the ginyu force can defeat superman.

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Again. Superman can turn back TIME! Sayans in any mode/level can't do that. He could turn back to when 0 sayans were around and squash the unholy bug that was it's common ancestor.

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Again. Superman can turn back TIME! Sayans in any mode/level can't do that. He could turn back to when 0 sayans were around and squash the unholy bug that was it's common ancestor.

that was lazy writing. remember superman's special wall building eye beam?

 

also reversing earth's spin doesn't reverse time. it just creates massive tsunamis which can obliterate land life

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That, sir, is lazy writing. The attributes of the heroes in question are defined by the writers of the individual characters. To apply a real world constraint leaves the door open to constrain each of them to real empirical limits. Superman went back in time with no harm to the earth, by the conditions set within its story, therefore the attribute stands. Si o no?

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That, sir, is lazy writing. The attributes of the heroes in question are defined by the writers of the individual characters. To apply a real world constraint leaves the door open to constrain each of them to real empirical limits. Superman went back in time with no harm to the earth, by the conditions set within its story, therefore the attribute stands. Si o no?

 

i refuse to abide by writers foolishnesses. when louis is falling down vertically at high speeds, superman flies horizontally can catches her - the net force on louis is same as her falling to concrete AND getting hit by a train. its not my fault the writers were plain bad. even tom and jerry is more realistic.

I say nay!

 

Haku...raditz can defeat superman

whoa whoa whoa there now

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its like if a reasonably powerful alien (with white skin and blue eyes) fell to kansas (ha!), how would the hillbillies see him? wouldn't they elevate him beyond his powers? wouldnt they spin elaborate stories? thats the story of superman. I weed out the impossibilities and take only whats consistent. if superman's powers aren't even consistent with physics of that fictional world, out goes that power.

 

 

btw, one punch man can splat superman.

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Or say a sayans re-entry into the atmosphere, without generating heat?

Or the sudden polymorphic bodies changing shape suddenly without added mass? Apply evenly, the hand of reason.

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Or say a sayans re-entry into the atmosphere, without generating heat?

Or the sudden polymorphic bodies changing shape suddenly without added mass? Apply evenly, the hand of reason.

when reading comics you have to give some leniency. If there is some excuse that can be made, it will be made. Saiyans have enormousness ki energy (every being does to some extend). The energy-mass relationship can explain away the transformations. Saiyans do generate heat and they can die. The strong ones just may be robust enough to handle the heat and impact. Same goes to superman. his bioelectric aura (ki?) saves his tights from catching fire in a re entry (doesn't explain the cape though).

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